RevThinking is the conversation between creative entrepreneurs who know the best way to deal with the future… is to create it. This is the only podcast focused on owners – in production, experience, sound, and motion design – discussing what it really takes to run a thriving studio, agency, or production company.
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Be Nice, Stay Mighty With Darren Price | Ep 096
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Darren Price is ECD and Founder at Mighty Nice, the Sydney-based animation studio now recognized among the industry leaders in Australia for creative animated solutions. Darren reckons that animation is like beer...or sunshine. With enough of it, everything starts to look good. Technically brilliant, strong in narrative, and beautiful to watch - it…
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A Noble Mission With Ashley Kohler | Ep 095
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The day before the US Presidential Election – and on the heels of BLM and the ongoing COVID pandemic – Joel Pilger sat down with Ashley Kohler to discuss her journey as a creative entrepreneur. Ashley is President & Executive Producer of Awesome Incorporated, known for both commercial and series production. Prior to starting Awesome Inc, Mrs. Kohle…
The Motion Awards by Motionographer are shining a light on the people and work that comprise the best of the motion design community.Tune in to the live event on December 10th at 8pm EST at https://motionographer.com/2020/12/03/the-motion-awards-live/By Joel Pilger
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Simulating Possibilities with David Sheldon-Hicks | Ep 093
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"That's the bit that's been really interesting to me is, can we not sacrifice our creative morals for the sake of commerce? Can both of those things exist?" – David Sheldon-HicksIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger has a conversation with David Sheldon-Hicks, Founder at Territory Studio.…
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A Very Delicate Ecosystem with Erin Sarofsky | Ep 092
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“It’s a very delicate ecosystem but really my job as the owner is to make sure the company is healthy. It’s almost like a child or a person that I am caretaker of.” – Erin Sarofsky, SarofskyIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Erin Sarofsky, ECD And owner at eminent creative studio Sarofsky.…
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The Story Arc of a Studio with Jay Grandin | Ep 091
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“The studio has a story arc, and then every project is its own story arc, and your relationship with that client is a story arc, and then you have a bunch of staff that have their own story arc. And I think that with enough thought and intention, you can line those things up.” – Jay Grandin, Partner + Creative Director at Giant AntIn this episode o…
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When the Pirates Become the Navy | RevThoughts 018
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This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “When the Pirates Become the Navy.“By Joel Pilger
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Sometimes I Don't Want To Be The Owner | RevThoughts 017
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This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “Sometimes I Don't Want To Be The Owner.“By Joel Pilger
This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “Time to Fire Your Mom.“By Joel Pilger
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Neuromarketing with Nina Stanley | Ep 090
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“How can I as a marketer ignite the pathway – that I want – when somebody is reacting to my fill-in-the-blank?'” – Nina StanleyIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with CCO and Neuromarketing Officer Nina Stanley at MOD to explore the her journey of helming her creative agency. They also dive into the topics of neuromar…
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The Interest to Intent Chasm | RevThoughts 015
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This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “The Interest to Intent Chasm.“By Joel Pilger
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The Creative Thinker with Claudia Mayer | Ep 089
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"With creatives something I hear quite often is that they don't like sales. By rephrasing it we can say, 'let's do some matchmaking and see if we match'. " - Claudia MayerIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Claudia Mayer, Creative Business Coach, asking the question, is there a disconnect between creativity and bu…
This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “recapping revolve.“By Joel Pilger
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Promax Goes Virtual with Steve Kazanjian | Ep 088
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"Although sometimes it doesn't seem like it, there is enough work to go around for everyone and all of us are made better by connecting with each other, building out the community...and supporting each other grow and thrive." - Steve KazanjianIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Steve Kazanjian – CEO at Promax – to…
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Making Social Media Dragons with Dot Lung | Ep 087
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"It's not just about posting its about networking with your community. The more relationships you build the more opportunities you will have access to." - Dot LungIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Dot Lung mother of social media dragons, to discuss her formula for social media and how creative firms can take adv…
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Distribute Yourself with Richard Moore | Ep 086
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"They are sitting there on epic talent and although it's a sweeping generalization a lot of them love being in their zone of creating and for many they need to distribute themselves before they can even sell more." - Richard MooreIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with London based Richard Moore consultant and sales c…
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Staying Safe Vs. Opening Up with Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson | Ep 085
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"But also be a leader, don't just accept it. I do think there's part of this that's politically charged and I want people to think beyond the politics of the moment and think about what's healthy and good for the people that you serve." - Tim ThompsonIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger and Tim Thompon sit down to discuss the sta…
This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “June is Coming.“By Joel Pilger
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Digital Design Days Online with Filippo Spiezia | Ep 084
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"It's very important to find a place where we all come together and talk about the things that we love to do. I'd like people to be happy and inspired for a few hours instead of thinking about what's happening in the world right now." – Filippo SpieziaIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Filippo Spiezia, Founder & Cur…
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Maintaining Independence with Joanne Chan | Ep 083
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"It's about elevating the people along with you and trusting them. Because you can't do everything on your own. If you do that you'll never grow." – Joanne ChanIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Joanne Chan, CEO at Turner Duckworth to discuss "Maintaining Independence" and how she went from working in her business t…
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Spatial Storytelling with Nasya Kamrat | Ep 082
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Climbing The Value Pyramid | RevThoughts 011
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If You Don't Design Your Career with Ryan Summers | Ep 080
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Beyond Projects to Problems with Justin Andrews | Ep 079
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“The idea is to think in the client’s shoes. It’s beneficial for us – but it’s far better for the client – to have the engagement stripped down into phases, because it just eliminates so much risk.” – Justin AndrewsIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Justin Andrews, Partner and Creative Strategist at Animus Studios.A…
This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “Experts Travel.“By Joel Pilger
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The Emerging Content Agency with David Flanagan | Ep 078
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"Ready, fire, aim. Just getting on building momentum. You're ready enough, fire into action and then you build enough expertise around you to figure out what the true aim is.'" – David FlanaganIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with David Flanagan, Director of Content & Strategy at P2 in Sydney, Australia. What is the fu…
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End Of Decade Goal Setting | RevThoughts 008
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This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “End of Decade Goal Setting.“By Joel Pilger
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Diet and Exercise with Emmett Armstrong | Ep 077
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"It always makes my day when I see a response from some gigantic company like the senior marketing manager at Pepsi co. will respond to a client and say, "Wow this is such a great timely email - we have a project that might be right up your alley." – Emmett ArmstrongIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Emmett Armstron…
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Is Greatness a Goal or a Byproduct | RevThoughts 007
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This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “Greatness: goal or byproduct.“By Joel Pilger
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Intention In Motion with Joey Korenman | Ep 076
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“All I need is my family, a bottle of wine, and some warm weather, and I’m happy.” – Joey KorenmanIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Joey Korenman, founder and CEO at School of Motion.From a successful – yet unfulfilling – role in motion design studio to founding School of Motion, Joey’s story illustrates how leadin…
This week on RevThoughts Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson discuss “running your business vs. living your best life.“By Joel Pilger
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Getting Outside the Box with Justin Barnes | Ep 075
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"When you know the box, it's a lot easier to think outside of it." – Justin BarnesIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Justin Barnes, founding partner and creative director at VERSUS. Listen in for a candid conversation with Justin as he shares his journey co-founding his production company right in the heart of Manha…
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The Creative Destruction of OTT with Michael Smith | Ep 074
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"'These are the places the growth is going to be and it's not the traditional cable networks anymore so now I need to pivot my business and talking to these people about how I can help them meet their business goals." – Michael SmithIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Michael Smith formerly with Scripps and now indep…
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Marketing Is Not For Quitters | RevThoughts 005
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RevThought episode 005, our newest show on the RevThinking podcast: snackable conversations between Joel Pilger, Tim Thompson, and impromptu guests. Our topic is “Marketing is not for quitters."By Joel Pilger
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The Most Interesting Project with David Schwarz at HUSH | Ep 073
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"Oh man everyone's so happy here it's such a cool place to work; but when push came to shove and hard decisions had to be made, that culture exploded." – David SchwarzIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with David Schwarz, at HUSH.In running your business, did you notice that when you started your company it was all about…
RevThought episode 004, our newest show on the RevThinking podcast: snackable conversations between Joel Pilger, Tim Thompson, and impromptu guests. Our topic is “Profit vs. Margin.”By Joel Pilger
"If you can't get me in the first two seconds, I'm just going to tap out!" – Rita Drucker, SnapchatIn our third annual PromaxBDA Roundtable Podcast, Tim Thompson and Joel Pilger have a conversation with two amazing guests: Andrew Rosen and Rita Drucker.The topic of this years roundtable podcast is a little different, the focus being on content and …
RevThought episode 003, our newest show on the RevThinking podcast: snackable conversations between Joel Pilger, Tim Thompson, and impromptu guests. Our topic is “Reactive vs. Proactive.”By Joel Pilger
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RevThinking Takeover with Marcel Ziul | Ep 071
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“We only know the answers because we are looking for those questions with you.” – Tim ThompsonNow for something completely different: in this episode, RevThink client Marcel Ziul, Creative Director / Founder at STATE Design, takes over the RevThinking podcast.Ever brash, bold, and blunt, Marcel turns the tables on Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson in a …
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Creativity, Love, and the Power of Ideas with Richard Holman | Ep 070
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"One of the great things about being a creative in the twenty first century is that most things are being done already. There's a certain way of doing things, and once you understand the codes and conventions, then you can gain great traction by doing the opposite." – Richard HolmanIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with…
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The Rise of Consultancies as a Creative Force with Matt Taylor | Ep 069
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"When I came in, narratives were rousing battle poems that got lost in a powerpoint deck that just got filed away. But I think right now and what we are trying to do is to be able to translate that into things that can be experienced by more people. " – Matt TaylorIn this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Matt Taylor, at D…
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The Fight to Leave a Mark with Andre Foster and Guy Allen | Ep 068
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“To be honest with you, there’s like hundreds of thousands of other motion graphics studios that does what we do… and I think… when you start to understand the why of why you’re doing what you’re doing, that’s what makes you different” – Andre FosterIn our ongoing Profile of the Creative Entrepreneur series, we interview inspiring creative entrepre…
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Marketing Is Not A Website | RevThoughts 001
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Introducing RevThoughts, our newest show on the RevThinking podcast: snackable conversations between Joel Pilger, Tim Thompson, and impromptu guests. Our first topic is “Marketing Is Not A Website.”By Joel Pilger
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Wishing And Snapchatting | RevThoughts 002
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RevThought episode 002, our newest show on the RevThinking podcast: snackable conversations between Joel Pilger, Tim Thompson, and impromptu guests. Our first topic is “Wishing and Snapchatting.”By Joel Pilger
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Beyond the "Pick Me!" Phase with Dallas Taylor | Ep 067
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"We all didn’t necessarily get into this to only do client work… A graphic designer didn’t start drawing at 5 years old and love that for their entire childhood… to just sit around and go, ‘Why didn’t you pick me? Why didn’t you pick me?’ Like, make something. It doesn’t have to be in the industry... That’s my argument. Don’t make stuff for the ind…
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Profile Of The Creative Entrepreneur with Yann Lhomme | Ep 066
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"We go through that creation process, we look at what's there...so we know exactly what's going on. We know the trends, we know what works, we know what doesn't work, and we know what brand is doing what." – Yann LhommeIn this episode in our Profile of the Creative Entrepreneur series, Joel Pilger speaks with Yann Lhomme, CEO and founder of Thinkmo…
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Our Issue With Hourly with Jonathan Stark | Ep 065
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"The question I really wish they would ask is, "Should I even charge by the hour?" To me it's like a collective hallucination that this is the way professional services are bought and sold." – Jonathan Stark In this episode of the Revthinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Jonathan Stark at 'Ditching Hourly' as they attempt to eradicate hourly bi…