312: Re-Release: Michelle Segar on Making Lasting Changes


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Michelle Segar, PhD, is a motivation scientist and author of critically acclaimed No Sweat! How the Simple Science of Motivation Can Bring You a Lifetime of Fitness. She is also the Director of the Sport, Health, and Activity Research and Policy Center (SHARP) at the University of Michigan, and Chair of the U.S. National Physical Activity Plan’s Communications Committee.

Her evidence-based ideas about what motivates people to choose and maintain healthy behaviors is changing the conversation across fields. She consults with global organizations on these issues and delivers keynotes and sustainable behavior change trainings. She ran with the Olympic Torch at the 1992 Olympic Games in Barcelona.

In This Interview, Michelle Segar and I Discuss…

  • The One You Feed parable
  • Her book, No Sweat: How the Simple Science of Motivation Can Bring You a Lifetime of Fitness
  • How considering a different “why” for starting to be more physically active can be helpful
  • That why we engage in physical activity and what it is that we do are critical when it comes to us sticking with it
  • How too many “whys” dilute their positive effect on us
  • Intrinsic vs Extrinsic goals
  • How answering the question, “What kind of physical activity did you enjoy doing as a kid?” can be important
  • That we should start doing what makes us feel good and stop doing what makes us feel bad when it comes to physical activity
  • That any physical movement is better than none at all – Everything counts!
  • That flexibility is a strategy for success when it comes to sustained physical activity in your life
  • The vicious cycle of failure
  • The sustainable cycle of self-care
  • That it’s important to focus one complicated behavior change at a time
  • The self-care hierarchy

Michelle Segar Links




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