335: Laura McKowen on the Magic of Being Sober


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Laura McKowen is an author, award winning blogger and host of Spiritualish, a show that provides an irreverent take on self help. She has been featured on WebMD, the New York Post, Bravo, the Today Show, and more. Laura also hosts sold out retreats and courses teaching people to say Yes to a bigger life. In this episode, she and Eric discuss her newest book, “We are the Luckiest, the Surprising Magic of a Sober Lfie”

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In This Interview, Laura McKowen and I Discuss the Magic of Being Sober and…

  • Her book, We Are the Luckiest: The Surprising Magic of a Sober Life
  • Addiction isn’t about will power or being bad
  • How we as humans are “magnificent monsters” in that we all have light and dark inside of us
  • Being in a liminal space is where transformation takes place.
  • Looking at challenging times and asking “What is this trying to teach me?”
  • Embracing the mystery of not knowing
  • How addiction demands everything
  • Having a “split mind” – the conflict of wanting to drink and knowing that you shouldn’t
  • The cognitive dissonance between who we think we are and what we’re doing
  • Being afraid of how you’ll feel when you’re not drinking
  • Understanding that sobriety gets better, then it gets worse, then it’s different
  • Her experience with AA and the positive and negative aspects of this recovery program
  • The importance of dealing with the physical body in recovery
  • The fear of “aloneness” and not having a home within ourselves
  • Dealing with the ongoing struggle and need to be fixed or saved by someone
  • Learning to not being afraid of herself and starting to build self esteem and dignity

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