352: Kelly Wilson on Being Liberated from Anxiety


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Kelly Wilson, Ph.D., is a Professor of psychology at the University at Mississippi. He is Past President of the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science, and winner of the University of Mississipi’s prestigious Elsie M. Hood Outstanding Teacher Award. Dr. Wilson is one of the co-developers of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and has written several books, including Things Might Go Terribly, Horribly Wrong: A Guide to Life Liberated from Anxiety.

In this episode, Kelly Wilson and Eric discuss his approach to helping others to become liberated from their anxiety.

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In This Interview, Kelly Wilson and I Discuss Being Liberated from Anxiety and…

  • His book, Things Might Go Terribly, Horribly Wrong: A Guide to Life Liberated from Anxiety.
  • Anxiety is not as a disease or that we’re broken
  • His past view of vulnerability as being the enemy
  • His theory that 1 out of 2 people has experienced some form of suffering or hardship in their life
  • How labels can obscure a person
  • Before talking about acceptance, it’s important to understand what matters.
  • His approach to this therapy is about the direction towards what you love rather than just eliminating symptoms.
  • Your suffering may be due to how it’s being carried, not that it’s being carried.
  • Facing our difficulties is how we come to understand what courage and sacrifice look like
  • Values and vulnerability as a starting place in therapy
  • Identifying what would make the hardest thing worthwhile
  • When we don’t know our values, identify where it hurts
  • If the burden could be lifted, what would you allow?
  • Reclaiming what we value by taking redemptive action
  • The next right thing is acknowledging where you’ve been wrong
  • Committed action is just the next action that brings you back to who you want to be
  • It’s all about moving in the right direction, not the distance

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