302. Biscuits & Gravy ft. Matt Cole

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This week, to celebrate National Biscuits & Gravy Day, Tom calls up Matt Cole (@mc_dj_mc) to get a little history lesson (maybe also a geography lesson?) about southern cooking and what goes into the titular gravy! What makes a sausage gravy a uniquely beautiful partner for a flaky breakfast biscuit? How does someone even *make* gravy out of breakfast sausage? Is it, like, actually good, or just filling and satisfying? Matt challenges Tom to make Biscuits & Gravy before the second half of the show, and Tom challenges Matt to spend a little time cooking for himself as a self-care thing! We also talk Dippy Eggs, and what makes southern cooking the best cooking. Do you have a favorite way to eat biscuits & gravy? Did we miss something that you think absolutely should've been mentioned? You can join the conversation by supporting us on Patreon at patreon.com/upfordiscussion or by hitting us up on Twitter and Instagram @DownWithTalking! And, you can follow Tom Zalatnai everywhere @tomzalatnai. The Biscuit Recipe: https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/20075/basic-biscuits/ (although, obviously, I used butter instead of shortening, which, in retrospect, is maybe part of why I had texture issues? But also who buys shortening??) Debate This! episode 69: https://www.debatethiscast.com/blog/2020/12/1/episode-69-mr-toads-uncomfortably-horny-journey Debate This! Les Miserables Flavor Text: https://www.debatethiscast.com/blog/2020/12/8/flavor-text-les-misrables Resources for Allyship: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hp7nlP5UcH63FEl1kpPgxdO7Qw7iagcCTBfOPfPLuMg/edit?usp=sharing This episode is brought to you in part by Whisky Lane! www.whiskylane.ca SUPPORT THE SHOW! patreon.com/upfordiscussion MERCH! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/up-for-discusssion?ref_id=2539 Our logo is by David Flamm! Check out his work (and buy something from his shop!) at http://www.davidflammart.com/ Our theme music is "It Takes A Little Time" by Zack Ingles! You can (and should!) buy his music here: https://zackingles.bandcamp.com/ www.upfordnetwork.com Want to send us fan mail? Upford Network ℅ Tom Zalatnai PO Box 22585 Monkland PO Montreal, Quebec H4A 3T4 Canada

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