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Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers an ...
 
Rationally Speaking is the bi-weekly podcast of New York City Skeptics. Join host Julia Galef and guests as they explore the borderlands between reason and nonsense, likely from unlikely, and science from pseudoscience. Any topic is fair game as long as we can bring reason to bear upon it, with both a skeptical eye and a good dose of humor! We agree with the Marquis de Condorcet, who said that in an open society we ought to devote ourselves to "the tracking down of prejudices in the hiding p ...
 
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For those who may be new, Former Lawyer is run by me, Sarah Cottrell. Through my work with Former Lawyer, I help those that are trying to transition from a legal career and into something that’s really meaningful for them. This is part two of the story of my journey transitioning from a legal career and into starting Former Lawyer, as interviewed b…
 
To celebrate the 100th episode of The Former Lawyer Podcast, I’m sharing something a little different than usual, an interview with me about how I transitioned out of the law and began Former Lawyer. I first shared my story on the very first episode of the podcast two years ago, but I didn't go into a ton of detail around how I transitioned out of …
 
Like you, quitting law did not come easy to me. I distinctly remember sitting on the couch with my laptop in our house, scrolling through Indeed — because that was where jobs were posted back in the day — and having no idea what I wanted to do next. I was miserable and was willing to pay any price to get someone to tell me what to do. Fortunately, …
 
As you know, my podcast and membership, the Collaborative, is all about helping lawyers who feel they want to leave the law determine what they want to do instead, and how to do it. Usually, I share the stories of guests who have left the law already or want to leave the law, they are other “former lawyers” who are ready to share their stories. Now…
 
One of the most common searches I get from lawyers thinking of leaving law is “How bad is it to have a resume gap as a lawyer?” Or what they are really asking, "How bad is it to just quit my job without something else lined up and take that time to figure out what I want next?" To put a rest to most of your concerns, I’d say the answer is a resound…
 
Rachael Philbin is a legal project manager and former lawyer, who shows us that we don’t have to stray too far from the law if we’re ready to stop being a lawyer. There are many lawyer-adjacent roles that exist in the legal industry. In this episode, Rachael shares with us how she went from litigator to a legal project manager and what to consider …
 
So you’ve decided to seek the help of a lawyer career coach to help you redirect your work path? That’s a good first step. You obviously want a change in your current work life but you may have some misgivings in terms of where you’re headed. It’s not an easy situation, and a good lawyer career coach should be able to help you navigate this transit…
 
Nnamdi Nwaezeapu is a law school student, entrepreneur, and author of Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer: How to Pursue Your Dreams Without Giving Your Parents A Heart Attack. His book is geared towards children of immigrants who are navigating and deciding what to do as a career and whether to pursue being a doctor, lawyer or engineer or take an alternative…
 
When you see a statistic reported in the news, like "10% of University of California Berkeley students were homeless this year," how do you evaluate it? You shouldn't blindly accept every statistic you read. But neither should you reject everything that sounds surprising. Tim Harford, economist and author of The Data Detective: Ten Easy Rules to Ma…
 
The subject of biglaw burnout amongst lawyers is often talked about. Recently, there have been many articles talking about biglaw burnout, and particularly how associates in biglaw are experiencing burnout because of the way that many of biglaw firms were operating in 2020 and into 2021. People who are experiencing biglaw burnout have a common set …
 
Nnamdi Nwaezeapu is a law school student, entrepreneur, and author of Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer: How to Pursue Your Dreams Without Giving Your Parents A Heart Attack. On this episode Nnamdi shares how his experience as a first generation student shaped his decision to pursue his entrepreneurial interests and create a resource for others grappling ma…
 
Jennifer Park decided to chart her own path after law school, working for a legal tech company instead of Biglaw. On this episode, Jennifer shares why she decided this path was right for her, how she made the tough decision despite external pressure, and how you can get into legal tech or another booming industry with the skills you have. See Show …
 
Katherine Porter is a former lawyer turned consultant at her firm The Resource Woman, who now helps law firms cultivate a culture that attracts people and invites them to actually want to stay. On this episode of the podcast, Katherine shares how the idea of Designing Your Life and human-centered design changed her career trajectory and is now chan…
 
Heather Horton is a lawyer by training who now operates her own grief recovery company, The H-Squared Group, LLC. On this episode of the podcast, Heather Shares how she moved from accounting to law and now into her current role advocating for and teaching stigma-free grief recovery for lawyers and non-lawyers alike. See Show notes at formerlawyer.c…
 
Loly Orozco left a prestigious clerkship and career as a financial restructuring lawyer to run her stationery design company, Little Postage House. In this episode, she shares how hard it can be to leave the “machine” of big law, why it’s worth it for some, the importance of reconnecting to ourselves, and how her clerkship changed her path. See Sho…
 
Ivy Grey left a bankruptcy legal practice to work in legal tech. How did she do it? A mix of her mindset, skillset, and recognizing that there isn’t just “one” way for lawyers to grow their careers. In this episode, she shares more about what legal tech is, how we can use our mindset to find new career paths, and the importance of creative problem …
 
How much do Uber and Lyft drivers really earn, after expenses? Are they getting a raw deal by being classified as 'independent contractors' instead of employees? I explore the debate over these questions with three guests: Louis Hyman (Cornell), Veena Dubal (UC Hastings College of the Law), and Harry Campbell (The Rideshare Guy).…
 
Jonathan Liu hated public speaking and basically everything about litigation. Even so, he spent 7 years as a litigator before leaving the law for a career in real estate. On today's episode of the podcast, Jonathan shares how he figured out it was time for him to leave the law, and how he developed his career as a real estate agent and investor. Sh…
 
Robert Ingalls practiced criminal law, civil litigation, and estate planning before deciding to leave the law and start his company, Lawpods, which produces podcasts for law firms. On this episode of the podcast, Robert shares about how his podcasting hobby turned into a full-time career that he loves. Show notes at formerlawyer.com/083.…
 
Is there any justification for seemingly unjust laws like "qualified immunity," which allows cops to get away with bad behavior? William Baude, a leading scholar of constitutional law, explores how these laws came to be and why they're so hard to change. Also, Baude makes the case for originalism, the view that judges should base their rulings on t…
 
Julia and guest Vitalik Buterin (creator of the open-source blockchain platform Ethereum) explore a wide range of topics, including: Vitalik's intellectually honest approach to leadership, why prediction markets appear to be biased in favor of Trump, whether it was rational to invest in Bitcoin ten years ago, Vitalik's defense of life extension res…
 
Pia Thompson practiced law for years even though it felt wrong to her. On today's episode, Pia shares how she figured out who she is and what she wanted, and how she found her way to a career she loves as a home organizer and a KonMari consultant-in-training. Show notes at formerlawyer.com/079.By Sarah Cottrell
 
Julia and social psychologist Jonathan Haidt (The Righteous Mind) discuss his moral foundations theory and argue about whether liberals should “expand their moral horizons” by learning to think like conservatives. Julia solicits Jon’s help in understanding her disagreement with philosopher Michael Sandel, in episode 247, over the morality of consen…
 
In last week's episode, Janelle Christian shared about how she learned to prioritize herself over her job. In today's episode, she shares about how that included moving from a big firm in D.C. to one in Atlanta to make more space for her life, and ultimately, building a six-figure side business that enabled her to leave Biglaw. Show notes at former…
 
Janelle Christian skipped the LSAT twice, and only took it on her third go-round because her parents drove her to the testing site. She says, "My soul was screaming to not be a lawyer, but I still felt like it was what people wanted me to do. It was the right path, it was the prestigious path." In this first part of our two-part conversation, Janel…
 
Matt Yglesias talks about One Billion Americans, his book arguing that it’s in the United States’ national interest to dramatically boost its population, by expanding immigration and having more babies. Matt and Julia also discuss arguments for and against the “YIMBY” movement, which pushes for building more housing; what they’ve both learned from …
 
Natasha Alladina started her legal career in Biglaw. But a few years in, she knew it was wrong for her, and so she decided to explore other options. Her path through jobs in public service, recruiting, and policy helped her figure out what she truly wanted to do—and how to figure out how to move towards what you want, versus simply running away fro…
 
There are a lot of different obstacles that you may be running into as you consider leaving legal practice, but three of the biggest are Lawyer Brain, the Lawyer Bubble, and Other People's Opinions. Today, I'm sharing how to recognize these obstacles and how to defeat them. Show notes at formerlawyer.com/074.…
 
Lawyers are so often expected to operate as though they are unaffected by the events going on around them. This is especially challenging when we are faced with traumatic events like last week's attack on the Capitol. I want to remind you that if you're struggling, it's not because you're doing anything wrong. This feels hard because it is hard. Do…
 
One of the most common things that I hear from lawyers who are contemplating changing careers is that they are worried about how to manage their student loans. So today on the podcast, I'm sharing the audio of a workshop that Lauryn Williams, a consultant with Student Loan Planner, presented to the Collaborative last month all about student loan de…
 
After 20 years of working as a lawyer for the Department of Labor, Annette Choti decided to take the leap into digital marketing and search engine optimization (SEO) for small and solo law firms.⁠ She's sharing her story of how she escaped "beige world" on today's episode! Show notes at formerlawyer.com/069.…
 
One of the most important things that lawyers need to do if they want to successfully figure out an alternative career is to develop self-compassion and to learn how to be kind to themselves. You may be skeptical, but in this podcast episode, I'm sharing why self-compassion is essential to finding career satisfaction and figuring out what's next fo…
 
Rationally Speaking returns from hiatus with a look at a clash between two generations: Millennials, and their parents' generation, the Baby Boomers. Faced with stagnant wages and rising costs of education, rent, and health care, Millennials have a tougher path to economic security than Boomers did. And a growing number of millennial writers argue …
 
Megan Smiley and I are kindred spirits. We just met earlier this year, but she started her podcast, The Lawyer's Escape Pod, the same week that I started The Former Lawyer Podcast. I love what she's doing in the world, and I can't wait to share it with you! Show notes at formerlawyer.com/064.By Sarah Cottrell
 
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