Manage episode 297948864 series 2905749
Welcome. In this episode Steve, Joel and guests have a well rounded conversation about change. We explore the limitations and unearth question about focusing only behaviour change as an acceptable outcome. Heather Flynn, Kathy Goumas and others join in the conversation to help connect some of the dots and deepen our understanding of what it means to help others. Steve also does some foreshadowing of the fourth edition of the Motivational Interviewing.