[Full episode] Barenaked Ladies, Teri Hart and John Semley, Hawa Hassan

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Barenaked Ladies frontman Ed Robertson talks about the band's newly released 16th studio album, Detour de Force, and why he still worries when he makes a new record. On this week's screen panel, Teri Hart and John Semley discuss how late-night talk shows are adapting to the post-lockdown landscape, and share their reviews of HBO's much buzzed about series The White Lotus. Somali-born chef Hawa Hassan talks about her latest cookbook, In Bibi's Kitchen, which celebrates the food of regular grandmothers, each of whom live in or are from the eight African countries bordering the Indian Ocean.

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